hyly7788
2007-04-02 00:53
中国将研发通用CPU 16核可能领先世界
2007.03.31 [收藏到我的网摘]
中国龙芯项目总负责人、中科院计算所所长李国杰院士日前表示，今后我们将提供全世界最高水平的CPU核，由于龙芯CPU的设计人员过去长期从事并行处理器的基础研究，在片内并行处理方面具有一定的优势，计算所有可能比国外更早推出16核的高性能通用CPU。龙芯总设计师胡伟武表示，龙芯连续三年、每年性能都提高三倍的“三级跳”，实现了我国高性能通用CPU的跨越发展。目前，中科院计算所正在开展龙芯3号多核处理器的研制。
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反复地写这些聊以自慰的东西,简直无聊之极!
1)胡伟武信誓旦旦地说不存在专利问题,但是为什么要通过ST来买授权，这样以后会不会就有专利问题了?
2)胡伟武信誓旦旦地说国防等领域必须用可信赖的产品, 人家可能在CPU里设置个什么机关, ST生产的CPU就是可信赖的东西吗?
3)五年的时间对于CPU这个行业来说可能就是两代或三代的时间,把自己的命运绑在别人的裤腰带上, 寄希望于别人的暴富心理极为可能变成彻头彻尾的失败.
4)ST是取得独占方式授权，还是龙芯还可以授权于其它公司?
5)本次授权是否包括其它的产品,还是仅为龙芯2E/2F，未来的发展如何规划?
6) 3000万授权费及提成和国家的总投资有多大的差? 销售多少CPU才能够本，如果意法为追求利润，造成价格无优势，稳定性和性能又很差，导致产品无法推广，怎么办?
7)最麻烦的问题在于稳定性,慢不要紧,但是生产出来的东西如果瑕疵一大堆，大部分都卖给中国，最后根本就无法用。问题出来后，ST说是设计的问题，胡武伟说是制造工艺的问题，最后没结论，大家都说很遗憾，然后怕丢国丑，中国政府全部买单，国家的巨额投资、纳税人血汗钱就打了水漂，ST一分钱也不少赚，李国杰胡伟武等的工资也没少过，他们也顺便找到了一个垫背的，免得落个民族罪人的名份。最后得出来的结论是：不是我们无能，我们也没有骗人民，而是敌人太狡猾了。
8)什么中科院计算所、神州龙芯，龙梦，狗剩，意法，龙图，CPU，IP，七核八核，商用通，POS，李国杰、胡伟武、唐。。。乱七八糟一大堆。 产品LOGO、网站的域名也一堆，什么http://www.china-cpu.com、http://www.blxcpu.com/、 http://www.loongson.cn，张说明天发布新产品，王说后天，李说明天后天都不行，计划一变再变，言而无信，一看就觉得实在是混乱不堪，根本没有一个统一、清晰、明了的管理、规划和目标，到底在干什么，谁投资、谁管理、谁负责，损益怎样，简直是一团麻。这样的管理、这样的瞎扑，如不改变，最终必败无疑！
9） 时常为中国做辩护，时常为中国感到羞耻。人心浮躁，道德沦丧，粗俗无礼，欺诈无信，官贪民庸，街道脏乱，黑赌娼毒，环境恶化，这难道就是我们期望中的中国吗？ 愿事实在阳光下接受检验，愿汉芯、方舟、麒麟等做假者受到严惩，愿盗版软件不要像鸦片一样毒害中国人的心智，愿中国人能平心静气、一步一个脚印、踏踏实实地做事情，愿中国人可以以做中国人感到光荣，愿上天保佑中国。
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http://www.st.com/stonline/stappl/press...r2007/t2154.htm
Beijing, March 28,2007 - The Institute of Computing Technology (ICT) of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and STMicroelectronics (NYSE: STM), one of the world’s largest semiconductor manufacturers, today announced their cooperation on the development and commercial exploitation of processors, based on Loongson-2E IP developed by ICT. The first-generation product, Loongson 2E, which is now sampling with selected customers, delivers world-class performance and optimized power consumption at a compelling price point.
The cooperation between ICT and ST was started in 2004 in the framework of the France-China Technology Cooperation (CTIBO). Within the project, ICT is responsible for the architecture and the design of the processors, while ST supplies the technology process, manufacturing and sales. ICT and ST will jointly promote the processors into the Chinese market. Under the present license agreement, ICT grants to ST the rights to manufacture and sell worldwide the processors developed within the cooperation for five years.
Dr Li Guo Jie, Director of ICT said, “The Loongson CPU R&D project is a demonstration of China’s innovative capability. ICT is not only focused on the research and development of core technology, but also on the commercial licensing of its IPs. The licensing by a foreign company of the Loonsogn 2E IP proves that ICT has successfully placed China on the world’s technology competitive stage. Through the cooperation with ST, the commercialization of this technology is shortened with great market potential.”
“ST is very proud to cooperate with ICT, the most advanced R&D center for computer design in China. This joint effort combines ICT’s outstanding capabilities in advanced processor design with ST’s leading-edge technology and world-class manufacturing machine,” said Gian Luca Bertino, General Manager, Computer Peripherals Group and Corporate VP at STMicroelectronics. “The Loongson family of processors delivers impressive performance and low power for a variety of applications.”
The Loongson processors will be based on advanced superscalar 64-bit architecture that is compatible with MIPS64® architecture from MIPS Technology Inc. ST has acquired a full license to the MIPS64 architecture as part of the Loongson program.
http://www.loongson.cn/longxin/index.ph...ion=news&id=100
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根据中法两国政府2004年10月签署的政府间合作协议，龙芯2号系列中的龙芯2E以及龙芯2F处理器将使用意法半导体公司（简称ST）的90纳米工艺设计并生产。
在此基础上，经过友好协商和谈判，中科院计算所与意法半导体公司签署了关于计算所授权意法半导体生产并销售龙芯2E及其后续相关产品的协议，
[ Last edited by hyly7788 on 2007-4-2 at 12:42 AM ]
2007.03.31 [收藏到我的网摘]
中国龙芯项目总负责人、中科院计算所所长李国杰院士日前表示，今后我们将提供全世界最高水平的CPU核，由于龙芯CPU的设计人员过去长期从事并行处理器的基础研究，在片内并行处理方面具有一定的优势，计算所有可能比国外更早推出16核的高性能通用CPU。龙芯总设计师胡伟武表示，龙芯连续三年、每年性能都提高三倍的“三级跳”，实现了我国高性能通用CPU的跨越发展。目前，中科院计算所正在开展龙芯3号多核处理器的研制。
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反复地写这些聊以自慰的东西,简直无聊之极!
1)胡伟武信誓旦旦地说不存在专利问题,但是为什么要通过ST来买授权，这样以后会不会就有专利问题了?
2)胡伟武信誓旦旦地说国防等领域必须用可信赖的产品, 人家可能在CPU里设置个什么机关, ST生产的CPU就是可信赖的东西吗?
3)五年的时间对于CPU这个行业来说可能就是两代或三代的时间,把自己的命运绑在别人的裤腰带上, 寄希望于别人的暴富心理极为可能变成彻头彻尾的失败.
4)ST是取得独占方式授权，还是龙芯还可以授权于其它公司?
5)本次授权是否包括其它的产品,还是仅为龙芯2E/2F，未来的发展如何规划?
6) 3000万授权费及提成和国家的总投资有多大的差? 销售多少CPU才能够本，如果意法为追求利润，造成价格无优势，稳定性和性能又很差，导致产品无法推广，怎么办?
7)最麻烦的问题在于稳定性,慢不要紧,但是生产出来的东西如果瑕疵一大堆，大部分都卖给中国，最后根本就无法用。问题出来后，ST说是设计的问题，胡武伟说是制造工艺的问题，最后没结论，大家都说很遗憾，然后怕丢国丑，中国政府全部买单，国家的巨额投资、纳税人血汗钱就打了水漂，ST一分钱也不少赚，李国杰胡伟武等的工资也没少过，他们也顺便找到了一个垫背的，免得落个民族罪人的名份。最后得出来的结论是：不是我们无能，我们也没有骗人民，而是敌人太狡猾了。
8)什么中科院计算所、神州龙芯，龙梦，狗剩，意法，龙图，CPU，IP，七核八核，商用通，POS，李国杰、胡伟武、唐。。。乱七八糟一大堆。 产品LOGO、网站的域名也一堆，什么http://www.china-cpu.com、http://www.blxcpu.com/、 http://www.loongson.cn，张说明天发布新产品，王说后天，李说明天后天都不行，计划一变再变，言而无信，一看就觉得实在是混乱不堪，根本没有一个统一、清晰、明了的管理、规划和目标，到底在干什么，谁投资、谁管理、谁负责，损益怎样，简直是一团麻。这样的管理、这样的瞎扑，如不改变，最终必败无疑！
9） 时常为中国做辩护，时常为中国感到羞耻。人心浮躁，道德沦丧，粗俗无礼，欺诈无信，官贪民庸，街道脏乱，黑赌娼毒，环境恶化，这难道就是我们期望中的中国吗？ 愿事实在阳光下接受检验，愿汉芯、方舟、麒麟等做假者受到严惩，愿盗版软件不要像鸦片一样毒害中国人的心智，愿中国人能平心静气、一步一个脚印、踏踏实实地做事情，愿中国人可以以做中国人感到光荣，愿上天保佑中国。
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http://www.st.com/stonline/stappl/press...r2007/t2154.htm
Beijing, March 28,2007 - The Institute of Computing Technology (ICT) of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and STMicroelectronics (NYSE: STM), one of the world’s largest semiconductor manufacturers, today announced their cooperation on the development and commercial exploitation of processors, based on Loongson-2E IP developed by ICT. The first-generation product, Loongson 2E, which is now sampling with selected customers, delivers world-class performance and optimized power consumption at a compelling price point.
The cooperation between ICT and ST was started in 2004 in the framework of the France-China Technology Cooperation (CTIBO). Within the project, ICT is responsible for the architecture and the design of the processors, while ST supplies the technology process, manufacturing and sales. ICT and ST will jointly promote the processors into the Chinese market. Under the present license agreement, ICT grants to ST the rights to manufacture and sell worldwide the processors developed within the cooperation for five years.
Dr Li Guo Jie, Director of ICT said, “The Loongson CPU R&D project is a demonstration of China’s innovative capability. ICT is not only focused on the research and development of core technology, but also on the commercial licensing of its IPs. The licensing by a foreign company of the Loonsogn 2E IP proves that ICT has successfully placed China on the world’s technology competitive stage. Through the cooperation with ST, the commercialization of this technology is shortened with great market potential.”
“ST is very proud to cooperate with ICT, the most advanced R&D center for computer design in China. This joint effort combines ICT’s outstanding capabilities in advanced processor design with ST’s leading-edge technology and world-class manufacturing machine,” said Gian Luca Bertino, General Manager, Computer Peripherals Group and Corporate VP at STMicroelectronics. “The Loongson family of processors delivers impressive performance and low power for a variety of applications.”
The Loongson processors will be based on advanced superscalar 64-bit architecture that is compatible with MIPS64® architecture from MIPS Technology Inc. ST has acquired a full license to the MIPS64 architecture as part of the Loongson program.
http://www.loongson.cn/longxin/index.ph...ion=news&id=100
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根据中法两国政府2004年10月签署的政府间合作协议，龙芯2号系列中的龙芯2E以及龙芯2F处理器将使用意法半导体公司（简称ST）的90纳米工艺设计并生产。
在此基础上，经过友好协商和谈判，中科院计算所与意法半导体公司签署了关于计算所授权意法半导体生产并销售龙芯2E及其后续相关产品的协议，
[ Last edited by hyly7788 on 2007-4-2 at 12:42 AM ]